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	<title>Comments on: Linux vs. GNU/Linux:  The Aftermath</title>
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	<description>Once LoCo About Ubuntu, Now Onto Bigger Things!</description>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you should read these and not biased wikipedia where GNU people gets edited all articles back to promote GNU.

http://tinyurl.com/532kb8
http://tinyurl.com/mum9x
http://tinyurl.com/qhuhg
http://tinyurl.com/3uaq48</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you should read these and not biased wikipedia where GNU people gets edited all articles back to promote GNU.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many just falls to RMS propaganda of GNU/Linux. There is nothing more than simple technical reason why Linux kernel is the same as operating system and thats why it is Linux. 

There is no sense at all to &quot;call GNU/Linux as Linux because it is easier&quot;. 

The simple technical, computer science fact is, that Linux kernel, is same as Linux operating system. GNU has nothing to do with the operating system itself. 

http://tinyurl.com/532kb8
http://tinyurl.com/mum9x
http://tinyurl.com/qhuhg
http://tinyurl.com/3uaq48</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many just falls to RMS propaganda of GNU/Linux. There is nothing more than simple technical reason why Linux kernel is the same as operating system and thats why it is Linux. </p>
<p>There is no sense at all to &#8220;call GNU/Linux as Linux because it is easier&#8221;. </p>
<p>The simple technical, computer science fact is, that Linux kernel, is same as Linux operating system. GNU has nothing to do with the operating system itself. </p>
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		<title>By: chanux</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>chanux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can make Linux great even after ripping all GNU stuff it&#039;s OK calling it just *Linux* :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can make Linux great even after ripping all GNU stuff it&#8217;s OK calling it just *Linux* <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Linux vs GNU/Linux: It&#8217;s Baaack&#8230; &#171; LoCo About Ubuntu!</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Linux vs GNU/Linux: It&#8217;s Baaack&#8230; &#171; LoCo About Ubuntu!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you are just now reading this, read the first two posts, here for Part I, and here for Part II. Possibly related posts:For Me, It’s Linux, Not GNU/LinuxLinux vs. GNU/Linux: The AftermathHello [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you are just now reading this, read the first two posts, here for Part I, and here for Part II. Possibly related posts:For Me, It’s Linux, Not GNU/LinuxLinux vs. GNU/Linux: The AftermathHello [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonreagan</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>jonreagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The older-generation users is more of a generalization...  I don&#039;t have any numbers either, but it was just an observation.  I don&#039;t think are are any numbers, actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The older-generation users is more of a generalization&#8230;  I don&#8217;t have any numbers either, but it was just an observation.  I don&#8217;t think are are any numbers, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Cushing</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb Cushing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon &quot;A trend that I am noticing is that programmers or long-time (since 90’s or early 2000) hard-core users call Linux “GNU/Linux.”&quot;

I disagree with this point. I have no statistics to back it up though. I think you&#039;ll find it&#039;s the people who have been here just long enough to know the difference that do. I didn&#039;t know the difference for the first few months... then I learned the difference, and started using GNU/Linux, then I realized that was wrong and moved back to using Linux.

I&#039;ve been using Linux since &#039;03/&#039;04</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon &#8220;A trend that I am noticing is that programmers or long-time (since 90’s or early 2000) hard-core users call Linux “GNU/Linux.”&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree with this point. I have no statistics to back it up though. I think you&#8217;ll find it&#8217;s the people who have been here just long enough to know the difference that do. I didn&#8217;t know the difference for the first few months&#8230; then I learned the difference, and started using GNU/Linux, then I realized that was wrong and moved back to using Linux.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Linux since &#8216;03/&#8217;04</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Cushing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb Cushing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to note that for most of the GNU tools I can get bsd or other replacements and probably compile (soon with a bsd compiler) them to run on  linux. I love GNU. But GNU is in the wrong here. They are trying to force there Trademark, this is wrong... it&#039;s about Free and Open Source Software not name recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to note that for most of the GNU tools I can get bsd or other replacements and probably compile (soon with a bsd compiler) them to run on  linux. I love GNU. But GNU is in the wrong here. They are trying to force there Trademark, this is wrong&#8230; it&#8217;s about Free and Open Source Software not name recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Cushing</title>
		<link>http://jonreagan.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/linux-vs-gnulinux-the-aftermath/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb Cushing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call it Linux too. Anyone who wants to call it anything else is crazy. If you haven&#039;t noticed Operating systems are based mostly around there UNIQUE kernels. Hence, Mac, Win32, WinNT, Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc. You can run GNU on all of them.

The GNU OS has yet to be finished... as the HURD which has been needed for 23 years (easy to remember since gnu started the year I was born) hasn&#039;t been finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call it Linux too. Anyone who wants to call it anything else is crazy. If you haven&#8217;t noticed Operating systems are based mostly around there UNIQUE kernels. Hence, Mac, Win32, WinNT, Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc. You can run GNU on all of them.</p>
<p>The GNU OS has yet to be finished&#8230; as the HURD which has been needed for 23 years (easy to remember since gnu started the year I was born) hasn&#8217;t been finished.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;I still stick by my opinion that I will call Linux “Linux.”&quot;

Phew !!!  I am glad to hear it an I will sleep better tonight knowing that this is finally resolved in your mind.

&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;What is amazing about this subject is that so many people can be brought to action over it.&quot;

Whis is even more amazing it that people feel compelled to write about.  I eagerly await your post about which is better KDE or Gnome.

It really annoys me when people write this kind of stuff.  If you want to say something, just say it.  I think that I can summarize what you really wanted to say in your two posts as follows:  I will not call &quot;Linux&quot; &quot;GNU/Linux&quot; because I really have a problem with RMS and the FSF.  They are a bunch of radical crazy people.  Just come out and say it and don&#039;t send countless electrons to die in vain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;I still stick by my opinion that I will call Linux “Linux.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Phew !!!  I am glad to hear it an I will sleep better tonight knowing that this is finally resolved in your mind.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;What is amazing about this subject is that so many people can be brought to action over it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whis is even more amazing it that people feel compelled to write about.  I eagerly await your post about which is better KDE or Gnome.</p>
<p>It really annoys me when people write this kind of stuff.  If you want to say something, just say it.  I think that I can summarize what you really wanted to say in your two posts as follows:  I will not call &#8220;Linux&#8221; &#8220;GNU/Linux&#8221; because I really have a problem with RMS and the FSF.  They are a bunch of radical crazy people.  Just come out and say it and don&#8217;t send countless electrons to die in vain.</p>
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		<title>By: jonreagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonreagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(this comment will be posted on both of my post&#039;s comments section)

It&#039;s just my opinion, and why I titled my post &quot;For Me, It&#039;s Linux, Not GNU/Linux.&quot;  I am finding that my original post is causing many people to get irritated over the fact that I do not want to call Linux &quot;GNU/Linux,&quot; and the debate has become broken down to the exact definitions of what I originally meant.    What I referred to was the full system, kernel, apps, and all in all of my posts.  

Thanks everyone for the posts.  Read this page on Wikipedia for more on this topic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy

I am going to let anyone have the last word, as I am done.  I&#039;ve got better things to do, like writing a final review for Ubuntu Hardy Heron.

This debate has come to repetitive points (or agreements) that are beginning to get old -- fast.    My point of view is clear: It&#039;s Linux, and that&#039;s MY opinion, and I am not suggesting that everyone must call it Linux.  Everyone is free to their own opinion, but at this point, no one has shown me enough reason to change my thinking, even with all the links and information.  

I&#039;m tired of the constant fighting, and I suggest that it ends.  This kind of fighting is not good for Linux, and divides the community.  I would never have written my post if I had known that everyone was going react as such over my personal opinion.  It is also clear that we are not going to reach a consensus in this debate.

Now, let&#039;s get back to the fun that Linux (or if you prefer, GNU/Linux) provides for all of us, for free. :)

Thanks,

Jon</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s just my opinion, and why I titled my post &#8220;For Me, It&#8217;s Linux, Not GNU/Linux.&#8221;  I am finding that my original post is causing many people to get irritated over the fact that I do not want to call Linux &#8220;GNU/Linux,&#8221; and the debate has become broken down to the exact definitions of what I originally meant.    What I referred to was the full system, kernel, apps, and all in all of my posts.  </p>
<p>Thanks everyone for the posts.  Read this page on Wikipedia for more on this topic:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy</a></p>
<p>I am going to let anyone have the last word, as I am done.  I&#8217;ve got better things to do, like writing a final review for Ubuntu Hardy Heron.</p>
<p>This debate has come to repetitive points (or agreements) that are beginning to get old &#8212; fast.    My point of view is clear: It&#8217;s Linux, and that&#8217;s MY opinion, and I am not suggesting that everyone must call it Linux.  Everyone is free to their own opinion, but at this point, no one has shown me enough reason to change my thinking, even with all the links and information.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of the constant fighting, and I suggest that it ends.  This kind of fighting is not good for Linux, and divides the community.  I would never have written my post if I had known that everyone was going react as such over my personal opinion.  It is also clear that we are not going to reach a consensus in this debate.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s get back to the fun that Linux (or if you prefer, GNU/Linux) provides for all of us, for free. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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